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CW LEONIS – Why it may not be what is claimed.


There has been a lot of discussion on related threads about the googlesky image of CW Leonis, the brightest object in the night time sky in infrared, being Elenin/Nibiru.  I would like to share my position on this with you.  I do not insist that I am right, because I know even if I appear right today, others will follow that will provide new evidence for new theories that make the old obsolete.

Over the past few years, astronomy appears to have advanced leaps and bounds, but we always need to take a step back sometimes before we can move forward.  Astronomy took a big step backwards in the late 90s, but they don’t even realize it.  I am referring to quasars not experiencing time dilation and their redshift not being related to distance.

Light redshift has been used to determine distance to cosmic objects that are very far away.  Quasars have the most redshift of all cosmic objects indicating they are billions of lightyears (LY) away.

However, recently Nasa discovered a quasar that has a redshift indicating a distance of 10 billion LY from Earth.  It appears adjacent to a much closer galaxy that is only about a 100 million LY away.  Then they found another and another, Some appear closer, some farther.  New technology revealed that the quasars are connected to the closer galaxy by electromagnetic (EM) plasma indicating that the quasar and galaxy are actually neighbors and that redshift is unreliable for estimating distance.  This just destroyed Astronomy, but no one is accepting it.  People who work their whole lives have a hard time accepting new facts that contradict their beliefs.  Ask a religious fanatic.

This paper explains the controversy.

http://www.livingcosmos.com/quasar.htm

http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf034/sf034p08.htm

http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v11/i3/quasar.asp

Consider the distance reported for CW Leonis (600 LY) could be off by a factor up to a 1,000+.  Remember CW Leonis is thought to be a red giant that is the brightest object in the sky in infrared.  The infrared image may be caused by the same type of EM that may cause redshift errors with quasars.  A factor of six orders of magnitude would put CW Leonis about 0.0006 LY or 367 AUs or 3.9E9 miles away when the photo was taken.  A factor of 6E6 places CW Leonis about where Nasa says Elenin is when the infrared photo was taken.

Also, CW Leonis out shines all stars in the sky except the sun in the infrared.   If it’s the brightest thing in the sky besides our sun, shouldn’t we consider it closer than most stars and investigate the possibility that this object is our sun’s binary partner, but we didn’t because redshift says its not so.  Shouldn’t astronomy be rethinking these old theories based on obviously flawed assumptions?  Why is astronomy dodging the truth?  Because as Jack Nicolson once said, “You can’t handle the truth.”

CW Leonis is reported to be moving directly toward us at high speed.  Therefore, its location in the sky should stay relatively the same until its approach is close enough to be detected by movement of the Earth around the sun.   It was discovered in 1969 and its heading directly toward us.  I can’t find any recent location data on this.  Can you?

In an expanding universe, I would expect a red giant to be moving away from us like everything else and not directly at us.  Objects in space flying straight at us may be flying at us because of gravitational attraction.   Therefore, I conclude that the infrared image in googlesky could be Elenin/Nibiru heading for a sling shot around the sun and the infrared signature is caused by the objects extreme EM field.  The EM field causes additional redshift proportional to the EM field strength.

We can choose to believe those that continue to rely on methods that are proven to be flawed, or we can start over fresh with new ideas that make logical sense.   Staying the present course and denying the facts because of political correctness is absolutely crazy and is turning science into a religion.  Do we really need another one?  We already have the new religion of “Man-made Global Warming.”

There isn’t a current replacement for redshift calculations that I know of, so everybody turns their nose up at the current discovery by saying quasars are the only cosmic body known to be affected by this discovery with no other explanation.  I say take another look.  They are pushing their blunder under the rug and ignoring it so that they can all continue to get a paycheck; and not have to admit to themselves the embarrassing mistake, thereby, preserving their ego and avoiding ridicule, and most importantly, to hide the truth and consequences.

We appear to reside in an dynamic living electric universe.  Quasars resemble an EM effect.  In fact quasars have been observed within galaxies.  In a sense, a pregnant galaxy with a quasar embryo that gives birth to a new galaxy, a quasar.   The EM ropes (plasma discharge) that connect the ejected galaxy is the quasars umbilical cord that provides life sustaining EM power to feed the birth of stars.  If you have wondered why quasars appear so old, maybe they only appear this way when they are young, feeding and growing.

We need to start thinking of the universe as alive and understand life is everywhere.  This is the secret those in real power do not want you to know because they won’t be able to maintain security at the prison planet.

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31 responses

  1. I like the way you talk about certain old paradigm like the purely/essentially gravitational model of the Universe (!) and the connection you make between a more dynamic EM based Universe and Life. Well, I’m a fan of the Electric Universe model (EU) too and I have this strong impression that Elenin will put down the old gravitational paradigm of Astronomy once and for all, I mean, *if* we survive the passage but let’s discuss this later!:-) I don’t know how to do the calculations for the EM interaction between Elenin and the Sun using EU. Do you know of any link/reference for this?
    I’ve checked the data on comets on “http://www.minorplanetcenter.net/iau/Ephemerides/Comets/Soft07Cmt.txt” and discovered, of course, that Elenin is *not* just another usual comet out there. Among the list of 35 comets with eccentricity greater or equal to 1 (parabolic/hyperbolic orbits) *all* but Elenin have inclination with the ecliptic greater than 30 deg. (and Elenin has ~ 1.8 degree ) and among the 27 comets with inclination smaller than 5 deg only 2 have eccentricity above 0.56 and none have eccentricity greater or equal to 1 (except Elenin).
    For me this suggests that Elenin is more like a another planet of the solar system than an usual comet and its long orbital period suggests that it probably orbits between the Sun and the binary companion.
    Thank you so much my friend for your articles, they are very, very interesting.
    Elenin is probably the most interesting Astronomical event in a very long time, because of its direct connection with events happening now, and the fun part is that if you go to a discussion forum and say these things people start to call you ‘nuts’ and ‘fear monger’, but *the facts* say otherwise eh?

    July 27, 2011 at 4:08 am

  2. Jacques R Juarer

    Hello and greeting, we could compare our scientific “intelligentsia” to the pharmaceutical ethic, or honesty of politicians, the beautiful and simple

    answer to complex problems is often right under our nose, I have found most satisfactory explanations of our quandary about an ever expending

    universe, red shift, black holes, big bang etc… in the wonderful book from Mr Paul A. Laviolette called “beyond the big bang”.

    He is not saying anything new that wasn’t postulated before, but he put everything together

    But then, the ivory tower of established mediocrity must crumble to leave room for the real thing

    July 27, 2011 at 3:10 pm

  3. Tom

    Greetings. I have been studying Elenin and this theory for months and I can confirm there’s something odd about this whole situation.

    We have seen documents, testimonials from people looking through scopes, odd “cluster” pictures of Elenin and so on.

    Scientists that aren’t in the know would shocked to see some of these images and documents… If one amateur astronomer actually saw this thing, it would go viral everywhere. Why can’t they see what the ‘Doctor’ saw?

    If no one finds ‘it’ soon and ‘it’ is for real, a new paradigm would emerge almost overnight and it would be impossible to deny.

    Good luck friends

    July 31, 2011 at 9:59 pm

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  5. Tom Emig

    Dear Sir,
    Thanks for an interesting article. I have what may be a stupid question:
    Since the infrared pictures in Google Sky taken by IRAS date from 1983, how can we use them to give us the location of the objects in question in 2007? Were the ’83 images pasted into Google Sky in the locations in which they would be seen in ’07?
    I am intrigued by this topic, but am struggling to reconcile 1983 pictures with the June 14, 2007 coordinates of Elenin.
    Thank you.

    August 6, 2011 at 4:30 am

    • When an object in space flies straight at us, the object will appear in the same spot in the sky until the object gets close enough that we can see it move as the earth moves around the sun. The object moved a small amount from 83 to 2007 as indicated by the Nasa position tables.

      August 9, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    • Nemesis

      im sorry but IRAS has nothing to do with the images you see in google sky all the images you see were taken by the HUBBLE. look it up yourself on google sky wiki

      November 17, 2011 at 12:56 pm

  6. Tom Emig

    Searching Google Sky for the ’83 positions of Elenin (as listed by Nasa) returned locations which seemed to be a considerable distance from the large object in question (seen in infrared view).

    August 9, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    • Interesting. The last time I looked at the position data, I noticed some of the data didn’t make sense. Some points were way out of place, and some were not. I figured Nasa was updating the trajectory as new data came in, but that doesn’t correlate either. However a few points were too far off and must be errors. I will take another look.

      August 9, 2011 at 11:12 pm

  7. Tom Emig

    I looked at positions from rougly every 20 days. Most of them landed around a spot between Leo and Cancer, next to the HD 80613 star. Strangely, there were some that were way over in Virgo, near the Vindemiatrix star. For what that’s worth…

    August 10, 2011 at 1:21 am

  8. great dialog here….anyone ever consider plasma. plasma makes up 55% of our blood that is the main vehicle that carries red and white blood cells throughout our system. plasma could be the vehicle that carries the planets and stars through big system, the known universe. just a wild hunch, but if you think about it, it is true….we are products of our environment…..mini-solar systems and we do put off light, we are beings of light…

    August 11, 2011 at 12:47 am

    • The CW Leonid Carbon star has a different trajectory than the Elenin trajectory. They are two separate entities according to the NASA and JPL data I have reviewed. The idea that this is moving towards us is determined by the blue shift, correct? What subjects can we use to triangulate the distance from earth?
      It would be interesting to know if this phenomenon has to be contended with during our generation along with Elenin and Nubiru.

      August 12, 2011 at 10:07 pm

  9. Hamal3xj

    Must I consider then that CW Leonis carbon star is it a cover up story for Nibiru?

    August 17, 2011 at 2:25 pm

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  11. MARSHALL KEMPER

    Currently NASA has a satelite orbiting a 3 mile wide asteroide in the Asteroid Belt between Mars and Jupiter. The orbit duration will be 1 year. The satelite has been their a short period of time. Another at Mars, Jupiter and so on. The truth is NASA could paint a skyscraper with all the satelites in the heavens. Need I say more,…. What about the Hubble? Surely it “must be” a cover up. Nowing mankinds ability to “freak out”. I’d say is a poor effort at that to cover up, confuse, cotradict or otherwise make people think anything but the truth. Is the Hubble able to view with infrared technology? If Elenin is only supposedly visible in infrared, well? Supposedly Elenin is being obscured with this so called comet. Elenin having entered our Solar System in 1958 and has been observed constantly since then. 100 times the mass of earth speculatively so and is the only constant. Pure speculation. They the government, nasa and others all agree on 1 thing. It is huge and has been here the last time, 3600 yeards ago. The earth survived then and will survive again. We are in for a show to say the least. M. D. KEMPER Marysville, Wa.

    August 23, 2011 at 5:01 am

  12. this is what we called a doomsday scenario; but it isn’t fact is that some one or something wants us to believe that we are save
    time and the elements ar gonne lets us see that were on the edge of TIME!
    during this time dont forget to see the game as it is

    greetings anja
    netherlands

    September 15, 2011 at 10:24 am

  13. Wolkie

    Read the Hopi Prosphesies, they already knew about the blue and red kachina, the Purifier is coming.
    It’s true, it’s coming.
    The covernments know, they are ready. We are not, except the ones who are awake.
    Peace to you all!

    september 15, 2011

    September 15, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    • Jacques

      So the oppressors are ready, the one that bring misery and hopelessness to the world are ready, we the “small people” are not, will this new epoch bring and sustain this nefarious abuse of the entire human race by a few ,
      The constant lies and deceptions from our “leaders, politicians, priests etc etc” is to keep us asleep and fearful; Those parasites do not want us to wake up and know our real beauty and power, but we must find out who we are and no longer choose to believe that we are but insignificant slaves for the power elite for their food, work and amusement .
      The truth of who we are is bringing the fear around to their door step, and they will stop at nothing to keep us ignorant.

      September 22, 2011 at 5:26 pm

  14. Paul

    I have found this site very interesting and appreciate all the comments made, one thing though, isnt the universe sooo huge that basically we are at threat from asteroids, aliens etc… coming at us each and every day? We are nothing but a mere speck in the sky and if i was an alien, i certainly wouldnt want to land here, for fear of getting experimented on, murdered, imprisoned etc…, we arnt the friendliest of ‘gods’ creations are we? Basically still in the dark ages.
    Is it possible that its only when ‘we’ as a whole human race ‘evolve’ to a better, higher level (no wars, etc…) that we will then make contact with other beings. Until then we are left alone, invisible to all thats good out there in the universe, only really visible to other alien beings that are warlike like us and only want to conquer.
    Getting back to CW Leonis/elenin/tyche/nemesis/planet x/nibiru, whatever you want to call it, there is NO WAY any government would want to admit anything coming our way to harm us, it simply would cause mass panic and riots, looting etc.. would follow. Its simply better for the powers to be to ignore it and let us carry on with our lives as if nothing was happening, there is sense in that tho.
    Does nobody remember the cuban crysis? when we nearly went into third world war? I myself was born in a scottish nuclear naval base as my mother was working for the Ministry Of Defense at the time. The M.O.D only told certain, carefully selected people at the time that the south of england is at high risk of nuclear attack, therfore they moved everyone to scotland, my mother included, she wasnt even allowed to tell her friends, to tell anybody. Not even her own father and mother. She did tho. lol. When the risk was at its highest and we was all safely in scotland, The government released a public service announcment program on Tv called ‘Threads’ about what to do in a nuclear attack, advice given was to ‘paint your windows white to reflect the heat blast, lol, and to make a shelter under your stairs, if no stairs then make one in your back room out of sofas etc… and wait until local authorities come to you, if anyone dies, leave them outside your front door. All this information was just to keep you indoors, The goverment doesnt want the hassle of tidying up thousands and thousands of corpses, better to have you dead in your own property, easier also to identify you. that nice of them isnt it?
    The majority of this world are sadly SHEEP. they believe what the governments of the world want them to believe and live happily with that, me? i was born into this governmental cover up b******t, i know what they are like as i carried on with the same career as my mother and father, i have worked in many different government establishments and have learnt how shrewd they are and can be. We even have hundreds of years of history dictating that the government will lie about anything, even to our own Queen, god bless her.
    Anyway, without ranting on, my point is, its up to us Shepherds to lead the Sheep to the truth, to ignore the false information force fed to us through the media. Its up to the honest people of this planet to warn us of anything thats trying to harm us, be it amateur atronomers (wasnt Sir Patrick Moore once a amateur and indeed is Leonard Elenin not one also?) or experts, its upto them/you to decide, truth or lie, Sheep or Shepherd?
    I wouldnt bother listening to nasa anymore, it seems that there calculations are changing by the hour, just to keep all us information greedy people satisfied, we are being told what we want to hear, not trusting them anymore nor any other agencys controlled by government.
    The vatican have also got the biggest infra red bi-ocular telescope called lucifer 1 havnt they? which sits on top of there huge bi-ocular telescope that they own in the middle of a desert, where? america again. Have we heard any fantastic news from this telescope? from the Vatican? all we heard is Pope Benedict stating that ‘its ok with the holy C to believe in Aliens’ they have been astronomers for hundreds of years, wasnt galileo employed by the vatican until he spoke harshly against the church and got persecuted?, the Jesuits do all the looking for them now even in the holy papal, where there is a telescope.
    But what have we heard? any re-assurance about this so called doom bringing celestial object? NO, all they keep going on about is the end of days and revelations. Again secrets secrets secrets.
    America keeps coming up and up in all discussions and news, most of it not good, from FEMA camps, New World Order and Guilotines??? WTF? illuminati, masonic all sorts of religious conspiracys, i myself am a direct descendant of Edward the Confessor of England and the Holy Order of The Knights Templar, so are quite a lot of people in the UK, do your history on our surnames, anyway, the church of templar is not afraid for they are the true knowledge keepers and will not bow down to some inferior religion.
    So sorry masons, new world order, it doesnt matter how much money you have, its not going to buy you salvation nor will the illuminati buy our affections and love with the promise of knowledge. God will be their judge alone.
    It seems that they will as a nation be the downfall of this planet, not some comet or asteroid. Let them have a go at the UK is all i can say. We are independant from religion (church of england) and America, People, scientists and astronomers are now sitting up and starting to notice,look and act, Advice for you good souls out there, keep watching and listening and make your own mind up before its too late.
    I personally just think this is a whole lot of scare mongering but i like to keep an open mind as its easy to pop something new into it.
    Finally i’ll end by stating, We are Legion for we are many.
    Its time to open peoples eyes not fill them with fear. Peace.

    September 27, 2011 at 2:43 pm

  15. hello it suppose to be 27 September; comet elenin hit the planet earth.
    i think we headed for niburu on 28 October, some people are saying that niburu is highly intelligenced object
    lead by et’s
    i’m curiuos

    September 27, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    • robert stefan

      Well if something does happen i hope it is Good
      Oct.28 is my birthday
      Good luck to all

      Bob

      September 28, 2011 at 1:33 am

    • most planets are beings like us run by their conciseness, same as we run our bodies but we are not bodies, most chinese jews and mongols are run by semiartificial conciousnes, and the same goes for planet beings who are often run artificially by smart ET races

      hellenandchaos.blogspot.com

      September 28, 2011 at 1:43 am

  16. MARSHALL KEMPER

    I read your article again. Very interesting. So, what is C.W. Leonis? Really, truly a star heading for us? Is Elenin/Nibiru one in the same? When is it possible /probable for this Bright star to be in our neighborhood? That can not be a good thing. Also, is Elenin here or not and how big is it?What internet sight is a good one for viewing this (forgive the lack of intellect) stuff? Was I mininformed regarding Elenin’s orbit Parahilion the 26th of September? So, has Elenin slingshoted by Earth yet? An would it be noticed with the naked eye or not? Inquiring minds want to know. Thank you

    September 29, 2011 at 6:10 pm

  17. Believe me that I want to be wrong. Just look at my last two videos.

    Dwarf Star BeePee Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3e-Xyh7dJo

    Dwarf Star June 14, 2007: http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/ELE6142007.jpg

    SOHO Image June 6, 2011: http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c266/Terral03/ELESoho06152011.jpg

    New Pic From Amenstop: http://oi56.tinypic.com/2cqiazr.jpg (by Terral)

    October 6, 2011 at 3:04 pm

  18. Paul

    Very interesting videos, Eleninn is meant to be at its closest to us on the 17th October, apparantely at a distance of 0.23384479371632 AU or 21,737,250.395 miles, (co-ordinates ; 08 57 18.93 +24 45 35.1) So I guess we have to wait until then to see if anything interesting happens, im guessing not. So far all indications lead to this being a small comet as described, YU55 on the other hand is another little interesting comet that has popped up in many a forum, YU55 is meant to be coming a lot closer, see below

    Near-Earth asteroid 2005 YU55 will pass within 0.85 lunar distances from the Earth on November 8, 2011. The upcoming close approach by this relatively large 400 meter-sized, C-type asteroid presents an excellent opportunity for synergistic ground-based observations including optical, near infrared and radar data. November 8th and the 9th is when the object will reach a visual brightness of 11th magnitude and should be easily visible to observers in the northern and southern hemispheres. The closest approach to Earth and the Moon will be respectively 0.00217 AU and 0.00160 AU on 2011 November 8 at 23:28 and November 9 at 07:13 UT

    So, basically this asteroid is going to come as close as 201,713 miles, since the moon’s orbit is elliptical (oval-shaped), its distance varies from about 221,463 miles (356,334 kilometers) at perigee (closest approach to Earth) to 251,968 miles (405,503 kilometers) at apogee (farthest point). The average distance from the moon to the Earth is 238,857 miles (384,392 kilometers).
    This debunks any theory of this asteroid hitting the moon, but its gravitational pull could put itself off course, maybe to hit something else, again interesting..
    As far as CW Leonis is concerned, i cannot find any threat, it is also known as IRC +10216 and mainly is considered to be a star in its last stages of life, google it and its a lonnnng way away, not getting closer, Yu55 is and there has also been a recent discovery of a rogue comet coming our way aswell, like i said before, we always have nearth earth objects , its keeping an eye on them thats the key. Keep watching the skies.

    October 8, 2011 at 2:25 am

    • Right now I wish I had a telescope. If I did, what kind of lenses will I want to have? I live in the state of Washington up here in the chilly northwest. “The Land of Perpetual Drizzle” where seldom is a chance for clear skies. Surely, no wander why so few own telescopes at all. Also, I understand that we get a lot of asteroids here and there and the few on the news are the ones expected to give a show. Typically expected. Will I get a good show if I had a way to view YU55 or will I need a special type of lense expecting it to be very bright and if so will most telescopes have enough ability to get a good clear image. Plus, how fast is it going? Will it be slow enough to capture? Providing it doesn’t capture a gravitational pull and capture us.

      October 14, 2011 at 9:06 pm

  19. Its speed relative to what? The earth is traveling 66700 mph around the sun. So for an object to catch up to us must go at least this fast. Elenin was reported to be moving at 50,000 mph relative to earth. I calculated the speed of YU55 at 53,320 mph relative to earth using the jpl diagram.

    October 15, 2011 at 12:21 am

  20. Paul

    Hi there folks, Good News!!! We are all still here. I watched a really good live stream for YU55, many thanks to ‘astromut’ for setting that up, this guy beat NASA and all the other so called space monitoring agencys (ahem @ SLOOSH) by setting up a professional camera ontop of a really good telescope, it was superb! you could actually see YU55 flying across the sky. Plus he had a live chat room open for all those with questions (or fears), Hats off to this guy. Its peeople like this that we CAN trust. I personally dont think its NASA’s fault, more like their ‘Big Brother’ watching over them, making them silent as they like to run their own country in Fear and not tell anyone the truth, (FEMA ring any bells?)
    Fair enough, NASA did a few ‘talks’ about yu55 live on the internet but they couldnt even display a live stream, of YU55???? it took a amateur astronomer to do it. Amateur is not a name i’d give this guy, more like professional but anyway, cmon NASA! do your jobs properly.
    Main point is, YU55 did not hit the earth or the moon or suddenly turn ionto a brown dwarf or even another solar system, it just flew, harmlessly into the void. The egg is definately on the faces of all those who liked spreading the Fear. Anyway, looking forward to the next big event,
    99942 Apophis, wikipedia it, anyway. Its gonna be a close call in 2029. Until then, ENJOY LIFE and lets hope the world and its population has learnt to get on with each other by then.
    A Very Happy Christmas and Peace to all.

    November 21, 2011 at 7:09 pm

  21. Sane Sanity

    You people are crazy and wouldn’t know proper scientific logic if it bit your ballzacks off.

    I guess the world is filled with morons that need baseless claims to grasp onto, so in that regards, I guess you’re doing a great job…keep it up dumbshits!

    Muahahaha

    March 10, 2012 at 12:54 am

    • Paul

      yeah you guess right, the world IS full of morons, Sane Sanity, name speaks for itself and is that what you call a scientifical logical reply to this forum?? Listen Pal, go back to whatever rock you came from and leave the sensible discussions to us scientists. OK???? Dumb ass
      And Moderator, Block this shmuck.

      March 29, 2012 at 10:40 am

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